Boasting about how many were saved through using the “sinners” prayer

See also:

Man determining who God saved

 


PLEASE READ THE WORDS OF C. S. LEWIS BELOW [Lewis is not the next paragraph]

Just think about this. Many men of the cloth ask if people in the congregation want to say the sinner’s prayer and become saved. Some in the audience say the sinner’s prayer. The men of the cloth then announce publicly that these persons are saved. Exactly how does a human being know when other men are saved? This is using the name of God in vain because the men of the cloth are taking the place of God in determining salvation. Yet many of these men of the cloth believe in the man-made doctrine of once saved, always saved; and so when some of these people lose interest in God these men of the cloth explain in private that these people were never saved. But I thought that the men of the cloth pronounced these people saved–in publicTHIS SHOWS THAT THESE MEN ARE TRYING TO TAKE THE PLACE OF GOD WITH RESPECT TO WHO RECEIVED SALVATION (WERE OR ARE SAVED).
And churches LOVE to put in writing how many people were saved during the year. How do the people in these churches know that?
Do you see how tragic this is! It is bragging in public and stating in writing about how many people (allegedly) were saved and later saying in private those who lost interest in God were never really saved.

DEREK PRINCE:

It is soulish [have to invent this word] not spiritual when men of the cloth pronounce that people are saved. Did God tell you that people were saved? You are bragging about your success in bringing people to God when you compile the number of people you say were saved over a certain period of time. It is only God who brings man to Him. Pride and the Holy Spirit do not and cannot mix. Stop boasting!

Romans 2:4
Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?
And the people are not being equipped because men of the cloth and congregations do not allow Jesus to appoint all 5 ministries. Read Ephesians 4:11 and the following verses and you will see why congregations cannot possibly be equipped. Derek Prince said that pastors and congregations were disasters because the Jesus appointed ministries were not in congregations and the greater gifts from Father God were not in congregations. Thus congregations are not equipped. They do not know the truth: If you know the truth [aletheia] the truth [aletheia] will set you free. John 8:31. Aletheia: knowing what is going on around you.

Rediscovering God’s Church, by Derek Prince

http://www.derekprince.org/Store/Products/1000034275/DPM_Store/The_Church/Church_Ministries/Rediscovering_Gods_Church.aspx

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Sinner’s prayer:
C.S. Lewis used the term “a great cataract of nonsense” to describe how people use a modern idea to construe Bible theology. One such example, perhaps the best example, is a conversion method called the Sinner’s Prayer. It is more popularly known as the Four Spiritual Laws.
Lewis used this term to describe what happens when someone looks backward at the Bible based only on what he or she has known. Instead, an evangelical should first discern conversion practices from Scriptures and then consider the topic in light of two thousand years of other thinkers. As it is, a novel technique popularized through recent revivals has replaced the Biblically sound practice.
Today, hundreds of millions hold to a belief system and salvation practice that no one had ever held until relatively recently. The notion that one can pray Jesus into his or her heart and that baptism is merely an outward sign are actually late developments.
The prayer itself dates to the Billy Sunday era; however, the basis for talking in prayer for salvation goes back a few hundred years.

Consider the following appeal:
“Just accept Christ into your heart through prayer and he’ll receive you. It doesn’t matter what church you belong to or if you ever do good works. You’ll be born again at the moment you receive Christ.

He’s at the door knocking. You don’t even have to change bad habits, just trust Christ as Savior. God loves you and forgives you unconditionally. Anyone out there can be saved if they … Accept Christ, now! Let us pray for Christ to now come into your heart.” 

Left to Right [pictures not shown]: Billy Graham, Billy Sunday and Bill Bright. They put forward a Plan of Salvation foreign to the Word of God. Judge for yourself whether it is better to obey God rather than man.

Sound familiar? This method of conversion has had far-reaching effects worldwide as many have claimed this as the basis for their salvation. Yet, what is the historical significance of this conversion? How did the process of rebirth, which Jesus spoke of in John 3, evolve into praying him into one’s heart?
I believe it was an error germinating shortly after the Reformation, which eventually caused great ruin and dismay in Christendom. By supplying a brief documentation of its short, historical development, I hope to show how this error has served as “a great cataract of nonsense”

Teachers interpret. Teachers are appointed by Father God. 1 Cor.12:28- (note that evangelists and pastors are not appointed by Father God because they are not in the list of greater gifts).  Teachers interpret the meaning of the Scriptures.  Jesus did appoint apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers TO EQUIP THE PEOPLE. Ephesians 4:11-). But churches have not appointed teachers to interpret for men of the cloth.

http://www.s8int.com/sinnersprayer.html

http://www.bible.ca/g-sinners-prayer.htm

Richard Duke–Many are called but few are chosen. Audio

 

Who is most of the New Testament written to? The answer may surprise you.

 

False Teachers Under 2 Peter 2—by Richard Duke

Who are the chosen in the Bible?

 

Choosing and human action

 

The early Christians did not believe in the doctrine known as eternal security, or “once saved, always saved.”

 

Can a person lose his salvation?

 

False Teachers Under 2 Peter 2—by Richard Duke

 

Prophets and teachers who fall away under 2 Peter 2

 

Why is the gospel taught but the gospel of the Kingdom not taught?

 

Seek first the Kingdom (gospel of the Kingdom), not the gospel (salvation)

 

A post regarding “cheap” grace and the once saved, always saved doctrine

 

Boasting about how many were saved through using the “sinners” prayer

 

Man determining who God saved

 

The Sinner’s Prayer:

 

Who is the enemy of the cross?

 

We’ve taken the cross out of salvation and offered its benefits


Sinner’s prayer:
C.S. Lewis used the term “a great cataract of nonsense” to describe how people use a modern idea to construe Bible theology. One such example, perhaps the best example, is a conversion method called the Sinner’s Prayer. It is more popularly known as the Four Spiritual Laws.
Lewis used this term to describe what happens when someone looks backward at the Bible based only on what he or she has known. Instead, an evangelical should first discern conversion practices from Scriptures and then consider the topic in light of two thousand years of other thinkers. As it is, a novel technique popularized through recent revivals has replaced the Biblically sound practice.
Today, hundreds of millions hold to a belief system and salvation practice that no one had ever held until relatively recently. The notion that one can pray Jesus into his or her heart and that baptism is merely an outward sign are actually late developments.
The prayer itself dates to the Billy Sunday era; however, the basis for talking in prayer for salvation goes back a few hundred years.

Consider the following appeal:
“Just accept Christ into your heart through prayer and he’ll receive you. It doesn’t matter what church you belong to or if you ever do good works. You’ll be born again at the moment you receive Christ.

He’s at the door knocking. You don’t even have to change bad habits, just trust Christ as Savior. God loves you and forgives you unconditionally. Anyone out there can be saved if they … Accept Christ, now! Let us pray for Christ to now come into your heart.” 

Left to Right [pictures not shown]: Billy Graham, Billy Sunday and Bill Bright. They put forward a Plan of Salvation foreign to the Word of God. Judge for yourself whether it is better to obey God rather than man.

Sound familiar? This method of conversion has had far-reaching effects worldwide as many have claimed this as the basis for their salvation. Yet, what is the historical significance of this conversion? How did the process of rebirth, which Jesus spoke of in John 3, evolve into praying him into one’s heart?
I believe it was an error germinating shortly after the Reformation, which eventually caused great ruin and dismay in Christendom. By supplying a brief documentation of its short, historical development, I hope to show how this error has served as “a great cataract of nonsense”

Teachers interpret. Teachers are appointed by Father God. 1 Cor.12:28- (note that evangelists and pastors are not appointed by Father God because they are not in the list of greater gifts).  Teachers interpret the meaning of the Scriptures.  Jesus did appoint apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers TO EQUIP THE PEOPLE. Ephesians 4:11-). But churches have not appointed teachers to interpret for men of the cloth.

http://www.s8int.com/sinnersprayer.html

http://www.bible.ca/g-sinners-prayer.htm

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